From The Pages Of The Ponca City News, Thursday,
March 19, 1998
LOCAL
Motel Tax Helping Provide More Funds for Tourism Attractions
Restoration, Other Needs Sought at Marland Estate
Muegge Challenges Kay County Democrats To Become Active
Kaw Lake Board Meeting Tuesday On Several Items
Boy Hurt While 'Playing Around'
Civil Air Patrol Gathering Here For Three Days
DEATHS
William E. Waymire
Obituaries
A.E. Klinger
Services Pending
Maxine H. Lingerfelt
Hazel M. Shuart
Dora Reid
Funerals
Eugene O. Silkey
NEWS BRIEFS
GARDENING
District Garden Event Here
Southside Neighbors Sponsor Iris Show
Horticulturist Addresses Local Council
SPORTS
Po-Hi Baseball Field To Be Named
Local Golfers Shine in Tourney
Volunteers Needed
By LOUISE ABERCROMBIE
News Staff Writer
Ponca City Tourism Authority (PCTA) Wednesday approved a request by coordinator Missy Morland to attend the American Bus Association show in Milwaukee and approved funding for a portion of the Main Street brochure.
The fee for the Milwaukee event, Dec. 6-11, is $975. Expenses for the plane fare, meals and rooms will be additional costs. Also approved was an additional Travel Show in Wichita set for May 30. Approval included registration of $250 plus expenses.
Main Street Authority had asked for a donation of $1,200 for the printing of new downtown walking brochures, which the PCTA also uses. Since there were other sources of funds on the brochures PCTA allotted $700 for the project. This will require a budget adjustment request from the City. Representing Main Street were Tamara Sharp, director, and Jeanne Glaser.
Morland said that there has been only one grant request submitted for the next quarter and the deadline is March 31.
David Zimmerman, chairman, noted that the three percent motel tax, which supports the tourism activities, has been up and is expected to collect more than the projected $105,000 budget.
Speculation is that part of the increase was from the Conoco turn-around at the refinery, increased tourism and there are no delinquent taxes from the motels, which remit the tax to City to be administered.
Collections Up
A total of $11,014 was collected for February, compared to $5,311 for the same month last year. The year to date figure is also positive with a total of $81,055 compared to $72,138 a year ago.
The budget has already been prepared but the board has not had input because there was no meeting in February due to lack of a quorum and other circumstances. The proposed budget will be mailed to the advisory board members.
Morland showed some proposed new items for the gift shop, which just recently opened. Morland said she was pleased with the results. Just open since Feb. 28, the gift area has sold $104. Most items have an oil derrick and "Where the '20s Still Roar" on them.
Morland was given permission by the group to order 20,000 new brochures and included new information. Also the Board requested new brochures be printed for the coming year.
In her report Morland, told about two mystery tours have been booked from Arkansas and will be coming here in April and May. She reported the FAM Tour stopping here was a success and the tour operators were impressed with the Poncan Theatre and the Marland Mansion. The group had dinner at the Mansion and were entertained by a group put together by Craig Myers of the Conference Center.
She also told about the Jefferson and Kincaid shows. Morland said that bookings have already begun for the Festival of Angels. Morland announced that "The Wall That Heals," which has been slated for April 16-19 is drawing a lot of interest. She also noted that she is getting e-mail inquires since tourism has a web page for the Internet.
A total of 220 visitors have come to the Visitors Information Center since August when it was relocated in the Cultural Center on East Grand Avenue.
Betty Rutz announced that the Kaw Lake Association will be sponsoring a Business After Hours with the Ponca City Area Chamber of Commerce at 101 Beverage next Tuesday. At that time the new Kaw Lake magazine will debut.
By LOUISE ABERCROMBIE
News Staff Writer
Marland Estate Commission will be asking the City Commission to okay a $99,100 request from the Marland Estate Foundation for restoration and capital improvements. These are funds either generated by the Estate Commission, grants or donations.
At the Tuesday meeting of the Estate Commission Larry Stephenson, chairman, reported that the Foundation, headed by Jerry Evans had enthusiastically approved the requests submitted for continued restoration of Lydie Marland's cottage, restoration of the artist studio and exterior cleaning of the Mansion.
In the citizen's comments, Carole Moyer, who owns a residence next to the estate at 1915 Rose Lane, told of the drainage problems and extensive damage to her property apparently due to the removal of large boulders and landscaping on the Estate.
She expressed concern that more paving or hard surfacing on the Estate for a parking lot at the location of the maintenance residence (also known as the chef's house) that fronts on Rose Lane could cause more damage.
Moyer related that a barn she had was flooded and also named several items that were ruined due to the water drainage from the Estate area.
Moyer said the culvert had been clogged with brush and this slowed drainage. She also noted that the Wetzels and McArthurs in the same area had experienced problems with the overflow.
At the February meeting of the Estate Commission the Facilities Committee had moved to table a recommendation that they had made for a new gate to be created at the southeast of the Estate and that the Rose Lane house be removed.
Nancy Severance, chairman of Facilities, said that at no time was a paved parking lot considered. She said the plan had been to do a porous lot with something like gravel.
Later in the meeting when this was repeated, Moyer noted that gravel would cause dust and asked if this was done if there could be a landscaping barrier.
Kathy Adams, executive director, told Moyer this was the first she had heard of the drainage and flooding problems and that she would contact the Park Department, which is responsible for the upkeep of the grounds.
Also during the citizen's comments segment, Don Welch, 836 Edgewood, presented a protest petition signed by over 50 persons residing in the area, who were protesting the opening of a southeast entrance to the Estate.
The document cited traffic control, speeding, vandalism opportunities, increased drainage problems, heavier and faster traffic in and out on Edgewood Drive, which leads to Rose Lane.
The Facilities Committee has based its recommendations on the master plan for the estate, Severance said. The petition notes that esthetic damage can be considerable if changes are improper. The document also stated that landscaping as suggested in the master plan is important.
Another suggestion was to use the curb loading and unloading along Monument where school buses parked in previous years when the kindergarten center was at Angela Hall.
Adams addressed this saying this being done as a result of a suggestion by Gerald Nield, who had appeared at the February meeting. She said signs are being prepared for bus parking.
Another suggestion was to enlarge the west gate to improve entry and exit for buses and trucks. Members of the Commission said this was not a possibility.
Another idea was to close the gate at the chef's house to control the traffic and follow the master plan recommendation by maintaining the original gate as it currently exists and reject the plan to use it as an exit to minimize adverse traffic effects, except during heavy occasions. It was noted that the heavy occasions occurs four times a year. Also that the semi truck traffic occurs about four times a week.
The petition questioned the possible use of the Unity Gym entrance and a bridge as a feasible alternative. Stephenson said he had consulted Ken Parr, head of Public Works, about this idea.
He said Parr said it would take some straightening out of the road and pavings with a cost of about $20,000. Commissioner Linda Clark said she would oppose this idea because it would be coming through yet another residential neighborhood. Several members of the Commission said they saw no reason to eliminate the chef's house if the enlarged gate was not placed in the area.
Facilities had reported that there was a problem renting the house because the City, at the recommendation of City Attorney Kevin Murphy, according to Adams, had recommended that it be rented on a month to month basis. Some of the Commissioners asked about a maintenance person for the Mansion living there. Adams replied the maintenance person owns his own home and the City is trying to get away from this type situation.
The motion that was tabled at the February meeting was to eliminate the house and to enlarge the gate. The matter will apparently come back on the agenda after further study by the Facilities Committee. Commissioner Eldridge Manering said he would like to have some grade elevations before decisions. Doyle Worstell made some suggestions on the gate situation.
In other business the Commission approved a recommendation to waive the fee for use of the grounds and building for Oil Boom Days. Adams reported plans for this evening are proceeding.
Ann Bandy reported on activities of the Long Range Planning Committee. Other reports were given on the restoration work on Lydie's Cottage, the artist studio, the Petroleum Museum and the cleaning of the exterior of the Mansion.
In Adams' report she told there is a large water leak in E.W.'s Restaurant, and also a leak in the Mansion in an area that was supposed to be fixed with the removal of a portion of the breezeway. She said she has been in contact with Matrix and they said it was a design problem and not a construction problem.
Attendance to the Mansion dropped in February from 1,753 in 1996-97 to 1,022 this year. The report shows there were no events planned in the Mansion this year. Last year the events brought in 804 visitors during the same period.
The financial report showed total revenue of $4,177 for February and this includes the $8,801 subsidy from the City's general fund. Total expenditures were listed at $56,551. A big item in this listing was building maintenance at $26,524.
Adams said she would be asking the city for new office equipment including a new cash register and a new copier. She said she would be asking for an additional appropriation of $10,000 for cleaning and repairing of the lead gutters.
The executive director said that the donation from Flo and Gordon Holland for capital improvements to the Mansion will be in the budget, which will include the restoration of furniture, cleaning and repairing rugs and the art work. Part of the funds were used to restore the statue of George Marland.
Sen. Paul Muegge challenged Democrats to become active at the recent March meeting of the Kay County Democrats. He addressed the current legislation in addition to the challenges of this campaign year.
Carol and Warren Stafford hosted the recent meeting at the Red Carpet Room in Blackwell. Veteran Democrats Vern and Joyce Willbanks, Bob Cronin and Harold Weigle were welcomed by the county group. Democrat Secretary Sharla Vetter provided St. Patrick's Day cake and ice cream.
During the business session the County Democrats finalized plans for the 7 p.m., March 27 "Democrat Party Party" to be held at Barbara and Jerry Ware's home, 1090 Rockcliff Road, Ponca City.
The Kay County Democrats voted to volunteer at The Wall That Heals, the traveling Vietnam Veterans Memorial which will be at Resthaven Memorial Park, April 16-19.
The group also decided to have a bake sale on April 9 in Newkirk. A mini-workshop from the State Democrat Office is scheduled for the next regular meeting 7 p.m., April 14 at OCAW Hall, 1202 West Ponca Avenue, Ponca City.
The monthly board meeting of the Kaw Lake Association will be held Tuesday, at 4 p.m. in the meeting room of 101 Beverage, 800 North First Street. All board members are encouraged to attend.
Individuals interested in knowing more about the Kaw Lake Association may attend the board meeting or contact board chairman, Bill Rutz at (580) 762-7389 or Executive Director Kathy Tippin, (580) 762-9494.
Items on the agenda include KawFest, Enid and Bassmaster boat shows, magazine racks, benefits of membership in relation to the matching funds program, and appointment of a nominating committee.
The purpose of the Kaw Lake Association is to build a region-wide partnership of towns, businesses, service agencies, and local governments within the North Central Oklahoma Kaw Lake area. Its mission includes recruitment of a broad membership base, creation of a financial support system, addressing infrastructure needs, tourism development, broadening the business base, and marketing the regional as a whole.
A 15-year-old boy was taken by life flight to Wesley Hospital in Wichita and after being run over by a friend while the two were "playing around."
According to police around 4 p.m. Wednesday 17-year-old Kia Coburn was driving a Grand Am when she backed over Cameron Moore in the 2200 block of North Fourteenth Street.
Before the accident, Moore had jumped in front of the vehicle and then jumped onto the hood of the car. Coburn drove several feet forward with Moore on the hood of the car.
When the car came to a sudden stop, Moore fell onto the ground. It was at that point that Coburn drove onto Moore.
Moore sustained internal injuries and remains in serious condition in the pediatric intensive care unit at Wesley.
More than 150 members of Civil Air Patrol's Oklahoma Wing are expected at the annual Wing Conference to be held this weekend at the Marland Mansion Conference Center in Ponca City. The event will begin Friday evening and continue through midday on Sunday.
Saturday's morning and afternoon schedule is filled with classes and seminars to sharpen the skills of Civil Air Patrol (CAP) cadets and seniors. At Saturday evening awards banquet, the Oklahoma Wing will recognize units and individuals which distinguished themselves in 1997.
"We're very excited about having the Wing Conference in Ponca City," Wing Commander Colonel David Ruppel said. "Oklahoma is fortunate to have a facility like the Marland Mansion where we can conduct our educational activities in such beautiful surroundings." This is the first year the Conference has been held in Ponca City.
Civil Air Patrol, the auxiliary of the United States Air Force, is America's
primary provider of air search and rescue services. In 1997, CAP's 56,000
volunteer members participated in nearly three thousand missions, flew more
than 25,000 hours, and saved 75 lives. Oklahoma CAP members also provide
assistance to local and state law enforcement and emergency management agencies.
DEATHS
ENID - William E. "Bill" Waymire, former Washunga area resident, died Monday, March 16, 1998, at his home in Enid. He was 74.
The funeral is set for 10 a.m. Saturday at the Ladusau-Evans Funeral Home chapel in Enid with the Rev. Don Tines officiating. Burial will be at 2 p.m. in the Washunga Cemetery located next to the Newkirk (Okla.) Cemetery.
William E. "Bill" Waymire was born Jan. 27, 1924, in Dexter, Kan., the son of Lester and Ruth (Davis) Waymire. He attended schools in Dexter, Kan. and served in the U.S. Army during World War II.
He was married to Thomasine Butler Strowbridge in 1952, in Ardmore. In earlier years Waymire worked in construction and the oil fields and as a cook. In later years while living in Enid, he was employed at the Youngblood Hotel and helped out at the "Our Daily Bread" kitchen.
Survivors include one daughter, Wiletta Gross of Enid; one brother Earl of Afton; one sister, Ollie Asmussen of Nacoma Park; two grandsons and several nieces and nephews. He was preceded in death by his wife, Thomasine, on Jan. 13, 1984; two sons, Floyd and Thomas; his parents; two brothers, Marion and Albert; and a sister, Amy Rhodd.
A.E. "Buzz" Klinger, lifelong resident of Ponca City, died Wednesday morning, March 18, 1998, at St. Mary's Hospital in Enid. Mr. Klinger had reached the age of 72 years, 10 months and 24 days.
Graveside committal service will be held at 2 p.m. Friday, March 20, 1998, at the Longwood Cemetery with the Rev. David Bigger, pastor of the First Free Will Baptist Church, presiding. Arrangements are under the direction of Grace Memorial Chapel.
A.E. "Buzz" Klinger was born April 22, 1925, in rural Ponca City, the son of Otto Charles Klinger and Edith Bertha (Schultz) Klinger. He attended rural Ponca City schools. He entered the United States Navy in 1943, serving in the Pacific Theater during World War II. He served on several different merchant ships as a gunman. He was honorably discharged from the U.S. Navy in 1945.
He was united in marriage to Betty Lou Ball on Jan. 10, 1946, in Winfield, Kan., and the couple established their home in Ponca City. In his earlier years he was an avid CB operator. Mr. Klinger also enjoyed being with his grandchildren, hunting, fishing, camping, and helping others fix things.
He is survived by his wife, Betty, of the home; one son, Cris Klinger and his wife Gwen of Ponca City; one daughter, Marilyn Sue Buck and her husband David of Ponca City; one grandson, David Klinger; four granddaughters, Cristin Martin, Heather Parton, Natasha Ferguson and Lacy Buck; four step-grandchildren, Chad Buck, Amber Bigger, Adam Arrington and Kerri Stuckey; three great-grandchildren, Ryan Parton, Tyler Ferguson and Rachel Parton. He was preceded in death by his parents, and five brothers, August Klinger, Herman Klinger, Clarence "Butch" Klinger, Ernest Klinger and Hilbert Klinger.
Memorial contributions may be made to the Opportunity Center, 2225 North Union, Ponca City, OK 74601.
Friends may call at Grace Memorial Chapel until 1 p.m. Friday.
The family will be at 1315 South Ninth Street.
paid obituary
Maxine H. Lingerfelt, longtime Ponca City resident, died Wednesday morning, March 18, 1998, at St. Mary's Mercy Hospital in Enid. She was 74. Local survivors include her husband, Charles, of the home and a daughter, Alesa Bailey. The funeral is set for 10:30 a.m. Saturday at Sunset Baptist Church. Friends may visit at Trout Funeral Home until 9 a.m. Saturday. Viewing will not be held at the church.
Hazel M. Shuart, longtime Ponca City resident, died Wednesday morning, March 18, 1998, at Blackwell Regional Hospital in Blackwell. She was 94. Local survivors include a son Robert G. Shuart. A graveside service is set for 2 p.m. Saturday at Resthaven Memorial Park Cemetery. Other arrangements will be announced later by Trout Funeral Home.
Dora Reid, longtime Ponca City resident, died Wednesday, March 18, 1998, at St. Joseph Regional Medical Center. She was 88. Survivors will include her husband, Jerry, of the home. Arrangements are pending with Grace Memorial Chapel.
Friday
Eugene O. Silkey - The funeral will be at 10:30 a.m. at Sunset
Baptist Church. Burial will be in Resthaven Memory Gardens under the direction
of Trout Funeral Home.
NEWS BRIEFS
Forged Checks - Police were called at 10:17 a.m. Wednesday for a forged check in the 2800 block of North Fourteenth Street. An officer was assigned and a report was taken.
Break-In - At 11:55 a.m. Wednesday police were advised that a unit at Gregg Storage, 300 North Union Street, had been broken into. An officer was assigned and a report was taken.
Egging - A woman in the 700 block of North Birch Street contacted police at 12:36 p.m. Wednesday regarding her house being egged. Extra patrol was given.
Arrest - Police arrested a 30-year-old woman at 1:46 p.m. Wednesday at Wal-Mart, 1101 East Prospect Avenue, for shoplifting.
Arrest - A 39-year-old man was arrested at 3:19 p.m. Wednesday from South Fourth Street and East South Avenue on a city warrant.
Burglary - At 3:32 p.m. Wednesday police were notified that a home in the 400 block of North Pine Street had been burglarized. An officer was assigned and a report was taken.
Arrest - Police arrested a 23-year-old man at South Twelfth Street and East South Avenue on a Noble County warrant for first degree rape.
Structure Fire - At 4:40 p.m. Wednesday a fire unit responded to a fire south of U.S. 60 near Oklahoma 156. The fire was extinguished.
Arrest - Police arrested a 22-year-old man for domestic assault and battery at 7:06 p.m. Wednesday in the 400 block of North Eighth Street.
Rings Stolen - At 7:10 p.m. Wednesday police were notified that a customer at a restaurant in the 2300 block of North Fourteenth Street had their rings stolen. An officer was assigned and a grand larceny report was taken.
Arrest - A 27-year-old woman was arrested at 8 p.m. Wednesday from the 400 block of North Eighth Street for interfering with an officer.
Arrest - At 8:02 p.m. Wednesday a 38-year-old woman was arrested in the 400 block of North Eighth Street for domestic assault and battery.
Egging - A man in the 100 block of South Osage Avenue called police at 9 p.m. Wednesday to report that his residence had been egged. An officer was assigned and a report was taken.
Lost Finger - At 2:09 a.m. Thursday a man was reported being treated
at St. Joseph Regional Medical Center after his finger had been bitten off.
The victim refused to file charges.
GARDENING
The Ponca City Council of Garden Clubs will host the North Central District of Oklahoma Garden Clubs, Inc. Spring Convention on March 28 in the Fellowship Hall of First Presbyterian Church. More than 125 members from the district are expected for the day-long event.
Mrs. Roberta Burns of Guthrie, District President, will preside over the convention. Morning coffee and registration will begin at 8:30 a.m. with the general business meeting starting at 9:30.
The theme "Nature in Flight" has been selected for the convention. Lake Park Ranger Kelly VanZandt will present the program on "Eagles in Oklahoma" beginning at 1 p.m. according to program chairman, Mrs. Maxine Manering. Kaw Lake is one of the major eagle viewing lakes in the state. Ranger VanZandt will show a slide presentation on eagles in the Kaw lake area and around Oklahoma.
Local Ponca City banks and business have donated door prizes and items for the Welcome Packets that each participant will receive at registration. Mrs. Barbara Younger, member of the Ponca City Red Rose Garden Club, is chairman of the committee putting the packets together. "Our out-of-town guests should leave here with a good feeling of the hospitality Ponca City has. We are extremely pleased with the items given to us by the local merchants to go in the packets said Mrs. Younger."
A full afternoon is scheduled on Friday for the district members to visit many of Ponca City's attractions. Ponca City Tourism has arranged for tours of the Marland Mansion, Cultural Center, Poncan Theatre, E.W. Marland's Office and Board Room at Conoco and a drive-by review of the Standing Bear Park. That evening members will be treated to a barbecue meal at Head Country Restaurant.
"We are very excited about being able to host the Spring Convention here in Ponca City. Our Council members have been working extremely hard to see that our fellow gardening friends enjoy their trip to Ponca City" said Mrs. Aline Heartsill, Council President. For information on the convention, you may call 762-8008 or 762-4887.
Plans are well underway for the fourth annual Iris Show being sponsored by Southside Neighbors May 2-3. The show is in it's fourth year in conjunction with the now 10-year celebration of the Iris Festival.
The festival will feature activities for all ages as local groups sponsor arts and crafts displays, garden tours, antique car show, chocolate festival, plant sales, quilt show, native American dances, live entertainment and iris shows. In addition the local post office will be offering postal cancellations celebrating the event.
Southside Neighbors Organization encourages all iris growers to make plans to enter the Community Iris Show which will be held in the Conoco Fourth Street Clubhouse. The show will be open to the public May 2 from 10 a.m. until 4 p.m. and May 3 from 1-4 p.m.
This event is an opportunity for people of the community to display the "lovely" blooms from their yard said a spokesperson. Competition for the most beautiful iris is open to anyone and ribbons will be awarded to those participating.
Iris may be entered in the show May 1 from 5:30 until 7 p.m. at the clubhouse. Multiple entries are accepted with the request that only one entry in each category of color be submitted.
Southside Neighbors will be selling iris rhizomes and other iris related items. Especially exciting, said a spokesperson, is an event, being added this year, which will feature the historic homes of the Southside. Tours of the homes will be available 2-4 p.m. on May 2. Interesting trivia about the original owners and the history of these homes will be presented by hosts at the homes. Tickets for this tour will be $5 and sold before the event as well as the day of the tour. Tickets may be purchased at the clubhouse or at the door of the homes toured.
Southside Neighbors sponsors these events in an effort to develop a community pride in this area said Rebecca Barker, member of the group. She further stated the money earned from the event goes to "enhance the area and to provide facilities and activities for young people." For more information concerning these events contact Mrs. Barker, 765-1689 or June Meade, 765-5843.
Members of the Ponca City Council of Garden Clubs met recently at the Cann Memorial Garden home. Mrs. Aline Heartsill, president, presided and plans for the upcoming district convention were discussed. Mrs. Mavis Robison, secretary-treasurer, gave reports Mrs. Maureen Danielson, Ways and Means chairman, spoke about the recent council fundraiser of selling bulbs.
Mrs. Linda Sparks reminded members of the bus trip to the Wichita, Kan. Lawn and Garden show. There are 25 members participating and the group will also travel to Mulvane and Oxford, Kan.
Jim Eck, city horticulturist, gave a report about the Cann house and ideas for a facility with a meeting room for flower shows and seminars and the need for public restrooms.
Announcement was made concerning the Oklahoma State Garden Club convention
April 19-21 in Bartlesville. Mrs. Sparks presented a program about water
gardens. The next council meeting will be April 1 at 9:30 a.m. with Mrs.
Carol Goldsbury giving the program on "Hostas - the New Thing."
For more information about the council and its programs call 762-8008 or
762-4887.
SPORTS
The Ponca City Public Schools is soliciting suggestions for a name for the Senior High baseball field.
According to Board policy, the Board of Education will consider requests from school and community groups to name a portion of a building, a single building on campus or a specific area on campus for a person who is deceased for at least three years or has been retired for three years, provided the proposed name has special significance and/or the person has made an outstanding contribution to the school system. The group making the request must agree to provide approved recognition, such as plaque, portrait, or marker for the school.
All name suggestions must be in writing and mailed to the Office of the Superintendent, Ponca City Public Schools, P.O. Drawer 217, Ponca City, OK 74602, no later than 4 p.m. on April 1, 1998. Submitted with the name should be the reasons that the person is being considered and the various contributions made by that individual for the students and patrons of the district.
Please contact Mary Ladd at 767-8000 for additional information.
The Adams Golf Course in Bartlesville hosted its annual Brush Hog Pro-Am Saturday and Sunday. Several amateurs and professional golfers from Ponca City participated in the tournament.
Despite adverse weather conditions, golf professional Bill Delaney posted a first round 3-under par 69. On Sunday the tournament was shortened to a 27 hole event and Delaney went on to win the low pro by firing a 38 on the front nine. This gave Delaney a 27 hole total of one under par 107. His nearest competitor finished 3 shots back.
Delaney's team of Mike Keating, Monte Keating and Billy Wright finished third overall.
Volunteers are needed to assist with the concession stands and at the admission gates during the AAU basketball tournament, March 21-22 and 28.
To volunteer for the concession stand, call Valynda Christian at 767-3822,
for the admission gates, call Chris McCeary at 767-5762, and for more information
on other volunteer duties, call Martin at 767-5469.